本篇文章是一位健美記者採訪當今健美界的兩位頂尖選手的文稿摘要,這兩位選手一位是自然健美冠軍Anthony Catanzaro,另一位是不願具名並活躍於職業賽場的IFBB頂尖職業選手,訪談與對話的內容是關於對藥物使用的爭論。沒有使用藥物似乎是無法更進一步成為職業選手,而另一方面自然健美選手卻堅持著自己的原則。

為免去冗長且繁瑣的贅語,本篇翻譯使用重點簡化意譯,黃色字體代表不願具名的職業選手,淡藍色字體代表自然健美冠軍Anthony Catanzaro (簡稱Tony)。

[記者]:
請問職業選手,在健美界裡人們使用類固醇、胰島素、生長激素等合成代謝藥物嗎?
Okay pro, is there a place for anabolic drugs such as steroids, insulin and Human Growth Hormone in bodybuildi?

[職業選手]:
當然是這樣的,如果合理使用的話,藥物會使你擁有完美的身材,所以藥物在健美界廣受歡迎。
Sure there is. If used intelligently, drugs are necessary to build a close-to-perfect-physique that is so much loved by the bodybuilding crowd.

[ 記者]:
那麼Tony你的觀點呢?
What are your thoughts on this Tony? Are drugs needed for bodybuilding glory?

[Tony]:
像在其它運動比賽達到頂尖一樣,健美選手在努力使自己成為塊頭最大、最好的選手。在金錢的作用下,健美像其它的運動那樣使藥物被廣泛應用。人們只是希望獲得更多的金錢而已。我至今還留在自然健美界的原因是對金錢沒有追求,而且以後也不會。許多職業選手使用藥物是為了獲得最好的身材,而我為什麼要獲得最好的身材呢?事實上我不需要十分好的身材。看一幅圖,不要將目光集中在湖上,因為在湖後有一個巨大的海洋。我不希望自己成為傳奇人物,我的目標是激勵人們快樂、健康的生活,而藥物很明顯不是正確的選擇。
Just like in any sport, the goal is to reach the top. Bodybuilding is a sport where to be the best you have to be bigger and better than the guy you are competing against. Bodybuilders will put their lives on the line in order to win. Drugs have become a necessity in bodybuilding and in many other sports today because that is where the money is. If you are the best, you will be paid for it and that's what it's all about in some of the athletes' minds. I remain a natural because I'm not looking at the financial gains from endorsements for products I do not, or will never use. Just because every pro uses them to be the best, why should I use them to be the best? The truth is you don't need them to be the best, look at the larger picture. Don't focus on the lake when there is an ocean behind you. I want to leave a legacy behind me for others to follow. My goal has always been to inspire and motivate others to live a happy healthy lifestyle. Drugs are never the answer. Like I always say,"In order to be a champion on the outsideyou have to first be a champion on the inside."

[記者]:
身為IFBB頂尖的職業選手,對Tony的說法你有何意見呢?
Pro. Tony says he feels money is the driving force behind a professional's choice to use bodybuilding drugs and that he is able to inspire others as a natural athlete. As one of the world's top bodybuilders, an IFBB professional, what is your response to this Pro?

[職業選手]:
藥物不僅在健美界盛行,而且在其它職業與業餘運動中也很流行。誰不希望獲勝,特別是涉及金錢時。職業選手要做的事是:盡一切努力來贏,所以藥物的使用不可避免。對我來說,使用藥物的原因不是為了錢,而是想看看藥物會給我帶來什麼好處。我的身材一直都受到人們的喜愛,並激勵許多人來練健美。我很小心的使用藥物,所以我很健康,而且成為許多人的偶像。
Drugs are not only prevalent in bodybuilding, but in almost all other pro, as well as amateur sports. And who would not want to win, especially when it involves money, as is the case in pro sport. A professional will do anything to win, and that involves taking performance-enhancing drugs. To me, the reason I take drugs is not because of financial gains, but to see how far drugs can benefit me physically. I can still inspire and motivate people because my body is not super-human-sized, like many other pros. I dare say people would want to look like me if they see my photos. I am taking drugs sensibly, I am healthy and do have a body that inspires others also.

[記者]:
職業選手,請問您是因為何種因素促使你決定使用這些藥物?
Pro. Other than wanting to see how far their use will take you physically, are there any other reasons behind your decision to use anabolic drugs to assist your bodybuilding efforts?

[職業選手]:
我開始使用藥物主要是我想見到我能夠進展到如何巔峰的體型,這個原因讓我躍躍欲試。但是我在正規訓練七年後才開始我的第一個藥物循環。
I mainly started (taking drugs) because I wanted to see how much my body could improve after I reached a plateau, and could not respond no matter what I did in terms of training, diet and recuperation. But I only started my first cycle after seven years of consistent training.

[記者]:
Tony你為什麼要堅持自然健美呢?
And Tony, why have you chosen to stay natural?

[Tony]:
很簡單,我想在過50歲生日時,沒有肝與腎等的健康問題。此外,我與家人、朋友們都互相監督、鼓勵不使用藥物。
That is an easy one. I want to live to see my 50th birthday, healthy with no liver problems or kidney disease. Plus whatever I do affects my family, friends, and whoever I'm close to. So if they know I'm taking drugs to be where I am then what will stop them from taking drugs as well. You become a product of your environment.

[記者]:
職業選手,藥物確實會給你帶來很大的信心嗎?停藥後又如何呢?
Pro. Do anabolic drugs give you greater confidence compared to when you are on an off-cycle? Do you feel strong and healthy when on?

[職業選手]:
是的,在用藥期間我感到精力充沛、強壯與健康,而且我每六個月做一次全面的體檢。在停藥後我的力量減小、身體也小了。在使用藥物時我身體沒有問題,在停藥後我也不會失去信心,因為我的意志很堅強。
Yes, I feel very energetic, strong and I am healthy when I am on the stuff (I do a full medical check up every six months). When I am off, I am weaker and a little smaller. I do not have an ego problem when I am using, nor do I lose self-confidence when I am off the stuff. My mind is very strong.

[記者]:
Tony你認為職業選手的意見是典型使用藥物選手的一般情況嗎?
Tony. Do you think Pro's comments would be representative of steroid using pros in general?

[Tony]:
事實上職業選手並不健康,而我的力量是從體內爆發出的,我不需要其它東西的輔助。不管是否在醫生的監督下,藥物就是藥物。醫生是最大的藥物銷售商,但他們其實不知道真實的答案。醫生對人們進行洗腦,讓他知道自己需要一些東西來獲得健康。而事實是,醫生不對你的健康負責,他只關心與你的交易。使用藥物來健美就像割鼻子而不管臉。大家都知道類固醇是徹徹底底的垃圾,使用它來增肌就像吸毒。最終你會擔心你的健康。使用類固醇來發展肌肉這簡直就是噩夢。我見過一個人,他在醫生的指導下曾使用過類固醇,現在不用了,塊頭就比以前小多了,力量也小多了。使用類固醇就像電腦中了病毒,雖然你不知道它在哪,但是它確實能給你帶來危害。
That's the whole thing with this stuff. It is artificial, starting from what it is made of and what it does. I can't speak for Pro, but I will say that drug-using pros are, in general, not very healthy. To me, strength comes from within and I don't need any enhancement to be the best.
The bottom line is drugs are drugs, whether they are prescribed by a doctor or not, they are still drugs. Doctors are the biggest drug dealers around. Doctors do not really have the answers. They are very scientific and they don't believe in the supernatural or the power of mind by and large.
The doctors believe in brain washing patients to believe that they need to be on something in order to be healthy. But the truth of the matter is doctors are not in the business to cure you, they are in business to treat you. That is the difference. We all should be our own doctors and learn all we can about our health.

[記者]:
你看藥物在未來發展的前景如何?人們會接受它嗎?
Pro. Do you think there will ever be a time where drugs are accepted in bodybuilding by a majority of fans and athletes? How would promoters, fans, athletes and the sport in general benefit from widespread drug use among the athletes?

[職業選手]:
我想在未來整個健美界會接受藥物,公眾也會得到許多關於藥物的知識。職業比賽將場場爆滿,人們更喜歡看大塊頭而非皮包骨。
I am sure there will come a time when the majority in bodybuilding will accept drugs, a time when the general public are better informed about steroids and other anabolic substances. The promoters will get more ticket money (people want to see big, symmetrical physiques), fans will get what they want to see (they do not want to see skinny guys onstage competing) and athletes will get to achieve their dream physiques (big, ripped and proportioned) and maybe get more prize money from the promoters when the shows are running well.

[記者]:
那Tony你的觀點呢?你認為有一天職業健美會徹底變成自然的嗎?如果藥物被全面禁止,情況將會如何呢?
As a natural bodybuilder Tony, do you feel that one day professional bodybuilding may become completely natural? What would happen if there were a heavily enforced, blanket ban on all anabolic drug use in bodybuilding?

[Tony]:
我認為如果藥物被全面禁止,選手們被確實的藥檢,那麼現在這種型態的職業健美與其它運動將會消失。例如:一個不懂得健美的人在看到羅尼與卡特後會說:太噁心了。而泳裝表演卻會大受歡迎,這是因為人們至今還未接受藥物促進的健美。如果健美以自然的方式發展的話,將會像足球世界盃那樣廣泛盛行,那時人們都會說:大的並不一定是好看的。
Well let's put it this way: the pros would all have to buy new clothes. If drugs were banned completely, and if athletes were heavily and honestly tested, the world of bodybuilding and sports would really take off in my opinion. For example, if a normal everyday person who does not understand the world of bodybuilding were to turn on the television and see guys like Ronnie and Jay they would say, "oh my god, that's disgusting." Now I am just being honest here, this is what they would say. I know because most of the world is ignorant to what bodybuilding is on a professional level. And nobody watching would say, "I want to look like a professional bodybuilder." Now if that same, everyday person was watching a bikini pageant or a male swimsuit pageant they would be more inclined to want the look presented there. What I'm trying to say is the world of drug bodybuilding will never be accepted because it is a freak show to most of the world. If bodybuilding took a natural approach and if a guy like me was made Mr. Olympia, it would inspire many more people to pursue it. One day the sport will understand that bigger is not always better.

[記者]:
職業選手,你認為職業比賽會向自然方向發展嗎?
Pro. How would you respond to what Tony has just said? Will professional bodybuilding ever be natural?

[職業選手]:
那是根本不可能的。如果藥物被全面的禁止的話,那麼參賽選手的肌肉塊頭就要變小許多,那麼比賽的舉辦單位組織將會失去觀眾而在營利上虧損。現在實際情況是這樣的,藥物濫用在職業健美界確實已經失控,IFBB應約束選手不要向畸形發展。
There is no way a pro bodybuilder could be completely natural. It is impossible to be competitive as an all time natural in pro shows. If there were a complete ban on all steroids in pro bodybuilding, then the competitors would be a lot smaller and less ripped and the promoters would lose the crowd.
True, drug abuse in pro bodybuilding is getting out of control and we probably do need some restraints. I still think they (the IFBB) should do something about the emphasis on freakiness. In my opinion, what inspires others is a physique that is hard enough to get, but attainable.
I have a physique that is not too big, like the mass monsters we are seeing more often nowadays, but bigger than lifetime drug-free bodybuilders. To achieve such a physique requires taking drugs, but within limits.

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